Thursday, June 21, 2007

The date people want to avoid ??

Ceredig posts some thoughts on the new Tories and I take the view that the silence on the part of the Welsh Tories is probably a reflection of the fact that they can't believe their luck at having a possible shot in government - when lots of people can't stand what they have done in Wales. As our CLP Treasurer told the local paper if he had wanted Tory he would have voted Tory - not ask Plaid to deliver them via the back door.

One part of my brain says this is what will eventuualy drive some deal between Labour and another party, but another bit of my brain has always told me that Ieuan Wyn and Alun Ffred's generation of nationalists (what I might call the post 1960's group) will find Ministerial power a strong pull. There is an element in many politicians (except the LIb Dems at the moment it seems?) who recognise that you go in to politics to make a difference, and the levers of power are how to do it. That was the lesson Labour had to learn after the long years in opposition, and what I feel should shape our need for a deal now.

On the other hand it might all fall apart and the minority government inch along promoting all party votes - until a budget, or other, crisis hits.

2 comments:

Alwyn ap Huw said...

As our CLP Treasurer told the local paper if he had wanted Tory he would have voted Tory - not ask Plaid to deliver them via the back door.

What a bloody silly comment. I could just as much say if I wanted Labour I would have voted Labour.

Just accept that not enough people voted Labour for Labour to continue with its divine right to govern Wales, attitude.

What a CLP treasurer wants isn't the be all and end all of Welsh politics any more. Welsh politics has changed, wake up and smell the coffee.

Martin Eaglestone said...

Perhaps missing my point. I feel that the BIG issue for Plaid is doing a deal with the Tories, as that could help determine their position on the spectrum for many years.

Perhaps the centre-nationalist forces will prevail over centre-socialist wing BUT the price is the loss of any cliam to progressive votes in Wales.

They might need to trad carefgully but progressiv evoices (Lab, some PC and Libs) couls siut more easily together.

Then again a minority government adopting some all party measures might stumble along.

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